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	<title>Comments on: Giving abusers the silent treatment</title>
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	<description>by Colin Devroe</description>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
		<link>http://cdevroe.com/notes/silent-abuse/#comment-221308</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 06:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you shouldnt remove flame debates, people love to battle and argue. Its really fun. You have to consider free speech, just cause you dont like doesnt mean you should remove it. You have to respect free speech. I am, of course, NOT talking about spammers, they deserve it. I talking about flame debates like this vs. that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you shouldnt remove flame debates, people love to battle and argue. Its really fun. You have to consider free speech, just cause you dont like doesnt mean you should remove it. You have to respect free speech. I am, of course, NOT talking about spammers, they deserve it. I talking about flame debates like this vs. that.</p>
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		<title>By: Forums: ignore the trolls?</title>
		<link>http://cdevroe.com/notes/silent-abuse/#comment-54530</link>
		<dc:creator>Forums: ignore the trolls?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was reading a post earlier today about how ma.gnolia choses to not tell it&#8217;s banned users that they&#8217;re [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was reading a post earlier today about how ma.gnolia choses to not tell it&#8217;s banned users that they&#8217;re [...]</p>
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		<title>By: import this. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How Viddler and Ma.gnolia handle abuse</title>
		<link>http://cdevroe.com/notes/silent-abuse/#comment-52369</link>
		<dc:creator>import this. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How Viddler and Ma.gnolia handle abuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 01:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Colin Devroe has an interesting post about how Viddler and Ma.gnolia handle abuse. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Colin Devroe</title>
		<link>http://cdevroe.com/notes/silent-abuse/#comment-52111</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Devroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris:  By &quot;comment bomb&quot; do you mean that people would actually be manually typing in tons of comments?  Or, is this spam related?

In Ma.gnolia&#039;s case I think they see a bit of both.  They see automated spam bots (due to having an open API I&#039;m sure) and some where they just see people submitted spam-like bookmarks a lot.  Perhaps Larry or Todd could confirm what type of ratio they see?

With Viddler it is completely manual (as far as we can tell).  But being that we have a bulk uploader it makes it fairly easy for abusers to queue up a ton of videos and just walk away.

Brandice:  I am not sure if we&#039;ll give this &quot;power&quot; to the Viddler community, or perhaps only a select few people (also like Ma.gnolia&#039;s gardeners).  This is something we&#039;ll have to build for ourselves internally first and then perhaps expand it to allow the community at large to do this type of thing.

Randy:  I&#039;m glad you found some value in this post - this is exactly why I wanted to write it.  I wanted those of us spinning our wheels to get a reminder of the best practices and anyone starting something new not to head down a path that could, potentially, waste time and energy.

Thanks to everyone for reading my post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris:  By &#8220;comment bomb&#8221; do you mean that people would actually be manually typing in tons of comments?  Or, is this spam related?</p>
<p>In Ma.gnolia&#8217;s case I think they see a bit of both.  They see automated spam bots (due to having an open API I&#8217;m sure) and some where they just see people submitted spam-like bookmarks a lot.  Perhaps Larry or Todd could confirm what type of ratio they see?</p>
<p>With Viddler it is completely manual (as far as we can tell).  But being that we have a bulk uploader it makes it fairly easy for abusers to queue up a ton of videos and just walk away.</p>
<p>Brandice:  I am not sure if we&#8217;ll give this &#8220;power&#8221; to the Viddler community, or perhaps only a select few people (also like Ma.gnolia&#8217;s gardeners).  This is something we&#8217;ll have to build for ourselves internally first and then perhaps expand it to allow the community at large to do this type of thing.</p>
<p>Randy:  I&#8217;m glad you found some value in this post &#8211; this is exactly why I wanted to write it.  I wanted those of us spinning our wheels to get a reminder of the best practices and anyone starting something new not to head down a path that could, potentially, waste time and energy.</p>
<p>Thanks to everyone for reading my post!</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Schmidt</title>
		<link>http://cdevroe.com/notes/silent-abuse/#comment-51951</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 19:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, thanks for this information, it&#039;s great! I am working on a project where I know there will be abuse, but I was going to deal with it when it was an issue...this gives me a few tools to work with when the time comes. Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, thanks for this information, it&#8217;s great! I am working on a project where I know there will be abuse, but I was going to deal with it when it was an issue&#8230;this gives me a few tools to work with when the time comes. Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: Brandice</title>
		<link>http://cdevroe.com/notes/silent-abuse/#comment-51941</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 19:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like the idea of being able to flag a USER, instead of all 60 of their spam videos, and then have them set up like Mag.nolia&#039;s done, where they won&#039;t know they&#039;re being thwarted until well after the fact.  

Brilliant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like the idea of being able to flag a USER, instead of all 60 of their spam videos, and then have them set up like Mag.nolia&#8217;s done, where they won&#8217;t know they&#8217;re being thwarted until well after the fact.  </p>
<p>Brilliant!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Coleman</title>
		<link>http://cdevroe.com/notes/silent-abuse/#comment-51939</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Band Madness, we would just do everything to make them miserable. The biggest problem we dealt with regularly was comment bombing, so we just set up filters to make it seem like they were saying the opposite of what they were trying to say. Believe it or not, people actually learned to have meaningful conversations once they realized that a flame war would be a futile effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Band Madness, we would just do everything to make them miserable. The biggest problem we dealt with regularly was comment bombing, so we just set up filters to make it seem like they were saying the opposite of what they were trying to say. Believe it or not, people actually learned to have meaningful conversations once they realized that a flame war would be a futile effort.</p>
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